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October 29, 2004
Setting Up My HP Media Center Extender
Here's my review of the HP Media Center Extender. Let me make clear up front that I'm much more interested in the technology aspect of the device: that is, the ability to access my media content in my bedroom via the MCE 2005 interface. I am not an HDTV buff or someone who worries about every pixel. With that said, I can report wonderful picture quality with the HP Media Center Extender and recommend it to others.
Two days after ordering my HP Media Center Extender from the HP Shopping website, the extender arrived. Within about twenty minutes, I had unpacked the Extender and had things up and running.
This Media Center Extender was purchased to go in my bedroom to access my media content from my MCE 2005 PC. The following equipment is what I'm using to run everything in my Media Center / Home Theater Setup:
- Gateway 820 MCE 2005 Machine
- DLink DI-784 A/G Dualband Wireless 108 Mbps Router
- Infocus X-2 Projector
- HP Media Center Extender
Prior to the Extender, I used my Infocus Projector in both my living room and bedroom. When I wanted to watch television in my living room, I would move the projector to my office (which sits just off my living room) and hook it to my Media Center PC and instantly have a picture nearly 9 foot wide on my wall. For those of you who aren't using a "big screen" environment, let me tell you the Media Center Interface, with its rich blue background, looks just incredible up on a blank white wall. I have a blank wall almost as big (7 ft wide) in my bedroom that, for the past 6 months, I used as a big screen as well. Prior to the MCE Extender, I would move my projector into my bedroom at night and hook it into my TIVO for another big screen experience.
This worked wonderful and there was absolutely nothing wrong with this setup. But, I just wanted everything to be unified and have all of my content in one place. The Media Center Extender has solved this and I've used it to replace my TIVO.
Now, the cost to get this up and running is more than it should be. For those of us "early adopters" who have to purchase these things right after they are released, we have to take the financial hit, I suppose. The first new purchase I made prior to the extender, was the D-Link A/G router. It was reasonably price (less than half of the Extender price) and I made the purchase of the A/G router about a week before purchasing my Extender so I would have time to receive the router and set it up. Having two setup and configurations at one time was more than I wanted to tackle. So, the day my router arrived, I was ready to get the show on the road.
After unpacking the extender, I immediately hooked it up to my projecter and my sound system in the bedroom. I have a stereo tuner and 3 speakers in this room (seperate from the tuner/speakers hooked to MCE PC). I felt a little dumb after not being able to turn the thing on but I finally discovered the power button is on the back of the Extender. The reason for the confusion is there is both a "Standby" button on the front and a green "button" with the MCE logo on the front of the extender. I hate reading instructions and was just pressing both of those not paying attention trying to power the unit on. When that didn't work, I finally looked at the diagram and found the power switch :)
I did take enough time to see that you set up the Media Center Extender to your television (or video source) and power it on and begin setup PRIOR to running the CD SOFTWARE SETUP that you install onto your MCE 2005 PC. Sometimes you buy equipment and it's just the opposite. But in the case of the HP Media Center Extender, you hookup the hardware first before installing the software on the PC, which simply connects the PC back to the Extender through the network.
You have the option of hooking your MCE Extender to your TV via S-Video or Composite Cable. In my case, I'm using S-Video cable to run from the Extender to the Infocus X-2 Projector. The S-Video Cable and Compositive Viedo cable are both included with the Extender. You also receive a remote control and two AA batteries for the remote in the package.
Setup was fairly simple. There were a series of menus to walk through and within 20 minutes of starting, I was watching live television in my bedroom that was being sent from my PC's tuner card.
Live TV looks great! I could tell of no quality loss watching live TV on my Extender, but keep in mind I'm not a fanatic about picture quality and pixels. My MCE 2005 Computer has two TV cards. I added one as the factory config for this model (Gateway 820GM) has only one. I have noticed a fuzzy picture occassionally when watching TV on the PC and the Extender. Since I'm seeing this on both the PC and the extender, I believe its due to a weak signal because I'm splitting my cable three times. The cable line is split to go to the cable modem and then to the TV card, which is split again for my 2nd tuner. It looks like the 2nd tuner has fuzzy reception. When I watch live television that the, the PC is picking the first tuner as a default and only if the first tuner is recording something am I seeing the 2nd tuner and the fuzzy quality. I plan on installing some type of cable tv signal booster to solve this problem.
One big thing that you can't do an an Extender is to watch HBO television content. When I attempt to tune into HBO as live television or watch recorded HP content, a "protected content" screen comes up. I can watch Showtime & Cinemax with no problems.
There is also one other minor "feature" on MCE that isn't available on the extender and that is the "visualizations." Normally you can choose visualizations while listening to music. This is not available on the extender.
In summation, the HP Media Center Extender is great. The quality is going to depend on the other pieces of the pie you have in place such as Network Speed, PC Processer Power and Memory, etc. I recommend reading up on the specs for a successful MCE 2005 experience. If all of those things are in place and if you have a Wireless A network, then you should find the Media Center Extender a great purchase.
I will say I've read some of the complaints people have such as the lack of support for watching DVDs. You will have to make the judgement on whats important to you. Do you require having everything you ever want in this 1st generation of Extender technology? Or would you be happy with having most of what you want?
For me, I'm very happy with this Extender. I have no doubt others will soon come out with better features, perhaps with built in DVD drives, etc. But, I have no regrets about jumping into this 1st generation device and if you love the Media Center Experience and want to spread it throughout your home, then the HP Media Center Extender is the way to go!
I look dorward to everyone's comments about the Extender. Please share your experience or the reasons why you are waiting and not purchasing
Posted by savsb at October 29, 2004 05:44 PM
Comments
Have you been able to watch any videos in My Videos? I have mpg and wmv videos that I can't get to play through the extender. I can watch the same videos without trouble on the MCE PC, not the extender.
Posted by: Ahmed at October 30, 2004 03:36 PM
Hmmm, interesting. I had not tried to watch any of my videos prior to your question. I can report no problems though. I was able to watch both home movies I imported and some music videos I had downloaded in the past. Everything with that feature works for me.
Posted by: Shannon at October 30, 2004 04:24 PM
Have you tried using "My DVD Collection" with your extender?
Posted by: Anonymous at October 30, 2004 04:30 PM
I'd like you to elaborate on the question by Ahmed in the following way : I'm looking into building my own HTPC with XPMCE 2005, but I first want to make sure I'll be able to do either of these manipulations :
1- Can you copy (rip) a DVD to the MCE PC, and then watch THE COPY on the hard drive, with full DVD menus, from the extender ? In other words, can you tell the extender to go open some DVD structure in a given directory on the hard drive ?
2- Can you then re-encode that movie, without menus, to some compatible codec (I'm not familiar with what codecs MCE supports, mpg, wmv, divx ?), end up with one media file, and ask the extender to play it ? (this of course to save space on the hard drive)
Thanks.
Posted by: Jack at November 2, 2004 09:30 AM
I have Charter Digital Cable with Showtime & HBO with a digital HDTV cable box and I'm a bit confused as to how MCE 2005's tuner can "descramble" premium channels (such as Showtime) even though I do subscribe to them.
Do I have to use my regular cable box to watch these channels? If so, don't I lose the ability to record/pause Live TV on these premium channels?
I know you can use an IR blaster to have MCE control the cable box's channels, but unless I am supposed to connect the cable box's Video Out to the MCE 2005 Pc's Video Input, I don't get how MCE 2005 can record/pause these descrambled channels.
I'm getting my MCE 2005 PC in the mail in a few days, so I haven't tested it yet. Just wondering if there is a certain recommended installation --
Any good FAQs on recording premium/digital/scrambled channels on MCE 2005?
or better yet, a diagram showing the "recommended" installation?
Also, I have a LinkSys Media Extender (since the TV is far from the PC) that is used to transmit the computer's video to the TV, but not transmit the other way around .. That is, I don't see how I can output the cable box's video (of descrambled premium channels) to the PC unless I draw a 50 foot S-Video or RCA cable from the cable box to the PC. I haven't heard anybody needing to do draw wires if they have a wireless Media Extender, so I must not be getting something.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Tom Keating
Posted by: Tom Keating at November 9, 2004 11:18 AM
I answered my own question. I got my Media Center PC in the mail last night.
You do use an IR blaster to control the cable box. Channel changing is horrendously slow since it types the channel in, instead of actually doing a Chan UP or Chan Down. I assume it does this since it needs to keep the channel info on the MCE in "synch" with what channel the cable box is on. That is, the MCE has no idea what channel the cable box is set to.. unless it actually types in the channel number.
If it did allow for Chan UP/Down to be sent to the IR Remote blaster, it's possible the MCE 2005 PC and the cable box "could" get out of sync.
This does make channel surfing a real pain though. I'm not sure why the MCE 2005 "remote control programming" phase even asked me to "learn" the Chan UP/Down IR remote control codes if it doesn't even use them when I use the MCE remote control.
maybe i am missing something. if so, let me know.
Posted by: Tom Keating at November 10, 2004 12:44 PM
Tom -- yes, it is a pain to "channel surf." You can still do it, you just have to wait for the cable box to catch up with you.
It's not horrible, but it does slow down the experience. Of course, for those people who have others in the room also watching the same TV -- they may appreciate less channel surfing :)
As for the scrabled content, my only experience is not being able to watch shows recorded on HBO on my media center extender, works fine on the Media Center PC and the projector thats hooked to it.
Shannon
Posted by: Shannon @ Windows Media Center Blog at November 10, 2004 11:04 PM
I'm just planning my Media Center PC purchase and have been doing some research. My plan is to have the Media Center PC hooked up directly to my cable connection and then broadcast TV,DVD and video content to my TV via a Linksys wireless A/G router and a media extender. Will this work?
Is it true that DVD's cannot be played over the wireless extender?
Will I be able to watch TV and use the computer at the same time?
Posted by: Greg at January 9, 2005 12:47 AM